Wednesday, March 12, 2008

A Garbage Can Situation

Since the facts are there, newspapers, Herald Tribune, the LA Times and Dr. Laura Schelssinger, we can bring up the question that Ms McGillivray seems intent not to answer.

There are the critics that insist this thread is irrelevant to being a Council person, however it is not irrelevant. When the Presidential Candidates or any other candidate for political office begins to express religious views, family values views or take a stand on abortion what happens? This Country goes nuts. Look at the rumor about Obama being a Muslim. It should not matter what his religious beliefs are, but it does.

So in that light why would MaryAnn McGillivray crusade in the late nineties to deny same-sex couples with kids or foster kids the simple right to call themselves a family. WHY?

Background: In 1997, Then Councilmember MacGillvray prodded the Sierra Madre City Council to adopt a definition of “Family” that excluded same sex marriages, foster parents and couples that, for whatever reason, choose not to marry.

She is quoted by Dr. Laura Schlessinger in the book “Stupid Things Parents do to Mess up Their Kids”.

“The redefinition was considered important because, as Councilwoman MaryAnn MacGillivray said, ‘We didn’t want to expand the definition of family into a garbage can situation…the fact is this community takes a moral stand.’”

So what is MacGillivray suggesting? What is wrong with alternative families? The quote implies they are garbage. How are you going to tell that to a 15 year old foster child who is having self esteem issues anyway?

It seems clear is that MacGillivray has no qualms at all about labeling people according to her personal moral views, and persuading others to do so as well. We the voters ought to think really hard about whether or not this kind of divisiveness has any place in our City Hall. Not to mention that it has no place in politics.
Some additional interesting quotes:

LA Times - 1997

“Councilwoman MaryAnn MacGillivray, who pushed for the separate definition of family, said the City Council should take a moral stand and use its power as ’small town lawmakers’ to maintain the definition of family as separate from any other living arrangement”

What will she try to use that power for next? Censorship?

LA Times 1997

“MacGillivray, however, demanded that the term ‘family’ be limited to those related by blood, marriage, or adoption, and that those living together in other relationships be called ‘housekeeping units’. She said using the word ‘family’ to describe those not related by blood or law ‘degrades the meaning of the term’”.

People were harmed and affected, the families that are a group of people affiliated by consanguinity, affinity, and co-residence, were degraded, and the whole family debate fiasco was an embarrassment and is remembered as a black eye on our community.

Herald Tribune

“The Supreme Court in its infinite wisdom, gave us a definition of family that we in Sierra Madre do not think is correct. Sierra Madre is much more adept at figuring out what is best for our community. We are tired of big government jamming these things down the throats of the small community. We don’t have to swallow that”

What will she pick and choose next? I am in shock and awe that she thinks she can take on the US Supreme Court. Who is “we”?

What about the waste of the Sierra Madre City Councils and staffs time and taxpayers money having this debate and adopting the definition in 1997, what might she do next to waste the time and money of our City Council and staff if she is elected?

Thankfully on November 25, the Sierra Madre City Council voted unanimously to repeal MacGillivrays’ definition of family. The blended, gay and lesbian, adoptive, foster and unmarried families in Sierra Madre are now and always will be, families, not housekeeping units.

So it seems she will stay silent about this “family debate” black mark on her resume, perhaps she will also stay silent on the fact that she was not only on the Council but on the General Plan Steering Committee which adopted the General Plan that helped One Carter get approved, and that she would rather litigate the City into bankruptcy than work and deal with the realities of what is going on in the City. Perhaps the next tax increase will be to pay for the attorney fees to litigate and prevent any further developments from occurring in our City.

12 comments:

Wes said...

I'm always bothered when elected officials use their office to pursue intolerance and bigotry that, at their core, are both un-American and un-Christian, but wrap themselves in the flag and hide behind the Bible to justify their beliefs.

Jae said...

Fantastic research, 91024.

I have grandparents on my dad's side that I literally haven't spoken to in eight years, and I don't really consider them family at all... but I have friends I'd put my life on the line for. I have friends who are in same-sex relationships with adopted kids, and they have better "marriages" than my divorced friends with their broken homes and weekend visitation.

My point? Family is what you make it. It isn't blood. It isn't a label or a definition. It's people coming together for love, support, and an endless bond.

Miss Havisham said...

You've done a lot of work here to shed some light on a candidate's character and beliefs.

I am curious to know if Ms. MacGillivray still holds to these beliefs or has she thought about it since, and perhaps come to a different understanding.

What are her current views on the subject? Forgive my ignorance, my mind has been buried elsewhere-but always interested in Sierra Madre. My children grew up there.

Anonymous said...

time for our cup of coffee

Anonymous said...

Miss Havisham,

I would venture a guess (and only a guess)having known Ms. MacGillivray and her reputation for a long time, that her views of family have not changed. However, I do find it interesting that when she decided to run for council again her opinion of what another elected official should be paid sure changed. So it seems that she'll say anything to get herself elected and gain the support of the very people she scoffed at when she last sat on council.

jadering said...

Good for you folks for spreading the truth about MacGillivray! According to the “No Way MacGillivray” blog, at the Kiwanis Club forum a few days ago, MAM read a prepared statement in which she apparently defended her “family definition” actions of 1997. So, apparently the leopard has not changed its spots, and she therefore is still unsuitable to hold public office. I clearly remember in ’97 how people here overwhelmingly held the position of, “How DARE she say that I’m not living in a family! How DARE she presume to say who is a family and who is not!” And especially because of her ideas of what is “moral” and what is not!! That sort of arrogant judgmentality has absolutely no place in public office. Society, perhaps unknown to MAM, continues to evolve, and as old prejudices and stereotypes fall away, people become more accepting of others. It’s more than shocking to think that this woman apparently still holds the position that what many peoples’ families consist of in town are suitable for the garbage can! Shocking that she should think it’s somehow OK to separate Sierra Madre families into the “acceptable” and “unacceptable.” This sort of backwards, prejudicial thinking is a blowback to the dark ages. MAM’s position is completely indefensible, and if she still holds that what she did in 1997 was OK, I have to believe she’s sunk. Actually, I’m noticing the last few days that there are fewer of her yard signs around town…..I think the word is spreading that she is bad news. Keep talking with you neighbors, folks, educating them about MAM’s history, and encourage them to not vote for her. As has been previously said, this town needs healing, not a narrow-minded divider like Mary Ann MacGillivray.

Anonymous said...

Jadering,

Bravo!

Proud to be in your court of opinion.

Now, can someone tell me what Paschal does for living? I'm not voting for him, but I'm just very curious as to his qualifications for running.

Thanks!

Anonymous said...

He is a car broker, OK?

Anonymous said...

Well OK! LOL

Thanks

Anonymous said...

RIGHT ON!

Mary Ann is right on with her views!

got my vote but not because of her family definition

because Enid is clueless

Anonymous said...

and let's not forget that John B is just a "human resources" attorney, he uses the word "attorney" like he's a trial attorney

his job is to settle and compromise, what we don't need because he can't seem to fathom the concept that he is elected to follow the will of the people

somehow, John actually thinks he's smarter or more enlighted than the common people

either he or Enid needs to go

Anonymous said...

And now she is the Mayor. Lots of good your article did lol.